Hmm yeah I had thought about it. But the thing is, I was planning on start kratom after like 3 days of 30mg codeine per day. Do you think it will still make me cold/wd that way? Because like you said 30mg codeine is almost the same as nothing. And even if I went into WD that way, do you think taking more codeine, any amount necessary, would end the WD? Because deep down I'm not trying to quit opioids, I just wanna change to kratom with the least discomfort.