It's very possible yes, but this is my standard daily dose and it never happened to me, let alone two of us having similarly strange experience.. also when I had too much kratom, I got sick and wanted to puke, but i also felt a strong euphoria and sedation right to the point of being sick, same as after sickness - best euphoria. Here it was zero euphoria. As I said, it's possible that this wild kratom has a different alkaloid structure - one I'm not used to, I just wanted to warn others who buy