You also said that Super green wild is even stronger, but I used 21g of it and felt great, and my friend used 36g of it and also felt great. Also I didn't use 8g right away, but 3g+5g after a few hours. And there is still the feeling of withdrawal symptoms after using only GW - with both of us. As I said, it's probably the different alkaloids, but I don't know - haven't had the same experience ever.