I wonder if our definitions of terrible kratom is the same, I've tried kratom from 3 vendors by now and all 3 of them had good and bad kratoms, I currently have thomthom's kratom and it's not anything special but it gets the job done, I wonder if kratombird will have the same effects, I wanna try their kratom cause it's cheaper but I don't wanna waste money and buy kratom which will have no effect on me, so i'm sceptical. ​ have u ever tried kratom from another vendor except kratom