To be honest I've only recently tried it and it's just like you described, hit or miss essentially. I'm pretty disappointed as the first dose I took had me thinking it was going to be better, but it kind of seems like euphoria is building but them goes nowhere... it's very frustrating, as I have not been able to find good kratom in soooo long, the last good batch I had was from kraatje and that was probably about a year ago.