Also, for me personally, Kratom still works when I’ve took traditional opiates the same day or even just beforehand, its just the other way around doesn’t **(if I take opiates *after* dosing Kratom they don’t seem to work)** Just my anecdotal experience some disagree and say they cancel each other out completely but for me they synergise as long as I wait for the opies to kick in before taking the Krat 🤷♂️👌