Thank you so much for your honesty on these vendors… I thought it was just me!! I’ve never tried kuk. But I’ve just had a look and your saying that’s it’s stronger stuff. The amount I taking from kratom bird should really have me going through withdrawals… nothing .. feel like what’s the point of really trying to stay away from prescription meds, when the vendor is sending sane green colour sane taste no withdrawal no nothing. Ty.