Hey, super green from kraatje is mid level good to me, red Borneo months ago from them was far better I think, I never ever throw up taking the plant u must use high dosage per day right ? I don't feel any real withdrawal when I stop last time I stopped I was a 9g a day 3/3/3, I just mix 2 to 3g to a orange juice tiny bottle and shake n drink it, it does not much recently but still I feel pain relief still and it's still useful but of course was better quality months ago!