I see what you mean, but I meant it as a temporary stopgap for OP’s situation. Since he is already in WDs then I’m afraid the opioid addiction train has already left the station for him, and for most of us here. Also, by definition, kratom is widely considered an opioid as it interacts with opioid receptors in the body. I get that as a former oxy user it may seem very mild to you but people do abuse in large doses suffer from WDs