Yes I 100000% agree with you. Especially from kratombird, I really barely feel the effects of it. Now I'm just chemically dependent on a stupid substance that does barely anything for me. It's great for exercise but yeah I'm early twenties and have been numbed and clocked out for the last few years because of it. Never been addicted to hard drugs but had a few years where I smoked a lot of weed, and just fell out of it, was making me paranoid. Loved kratom at first and wish it was of the same