very true, and i think there is some slight truth in all of it, but its all misunderstood and jumbled. for example, i've seen kratom trees with leaves that have red veins, but i don't think that has anything to do with the final product. there are a myriad of reasons why many different plants would have red/white stems instead of green, which could be down to soil pH, deficiencies/toxicities, etc what contributes to red is as you said, fermentation, and/or overdrying it until the leaves turn b