Yeah TLDR, best value for money right now is kratom bird, Thomthom is priced okay but their product doesn't really work for me. Kratom UK has been around for decades and they're good people. Been buying from them since around 2016 but I do agree, the prices are a bit too much although I understand why. You are paying for reputation and secure shipping. The kratom quality has been good, sometimes stronger than kratom bird but more than double the price. I was spending ridiculous sums with them.