the truth is OP that all the kratom vendors are shit i ordered from a Netherlands company the first time i heard about kratom it was good and that was about 6 years ago i ordered quite a few times from them and it was great it took a week and a bit to come home but spot on everytime i then quit and didnt bother with the stuff again until a few weeks ago same vendor same delivery but it was crap 7-8gs and i would barely feel anything so i decided to order from a uk based site well known on here.