Thanks a lot for your reply. I also used kratombird and kratjee and did not see any significant difference in the effectiveness of their kratoms despite the difference in their respective prices ( white and red seemed to be without any effect for me) and also i was not satisfied - I had to increase significantly the dosage to see any effect. You mentioned EUkratom is it https://www.kratom.eu/? And the special price-what is it? according to the volume of your order? One more question -if you c