Avoid KUK. They claim to be operating but my order from six weeks or more ago is still pending despite the product listed as being in stock. Their quality nosedived a couple of years ago and they hit problems with payment methods in the last year, as well as the site going down, and eventually forced me to stop taking Kratom. Much of the recommendations you'll see on here in public - and almost always in private - are company shills. Receiving quality Kratom is hit and miss at the best of tim