yeah , now it's been one week since i use ultra green everyday (ussually 3g dosages 2-3 times a day ) - and its definetly nice and strong enough kratom. I don't want to get enhanced with extracts because god damn... nothing good comes from that , i'd rather smoke some heroin if i wanna get smashed. But yeah.. nice kratom :) Red mana knocked me off.. i had a bad bad meniscus pain ,and still have (torn meniscus or stuck meniscus , fuck know... need to do MRI soon) and i took like 3g of red mana w