I've tried their product now. They're all en-par with KB honestly, apart from their new Jeruk which is pretty amazing. I think when you really compare their Kratom price to the shipping price of other companies, it's pretty close. Plus you don't have to deal with actually importing an illegal substance, which is also something they probably have to take big risks and pay for. I'm paranoid, so I paid for all my KB orders with the highest shipping I could. I think I'll stick with KUK from now o