Yeah I've used kratom for about 4 years now and KUK just has been so bad, but I could look past some of it, the prices are what really rub me the wrong way. Yeah, the bali gold is genuinely good and the jeruk, but again you're paying so much. If you can find the invite link that would be great mate. I got the green super maeng da from kraatje, I am surprised at how not awful it is, I only ordered from them (even knowing how bad their rep has become) to avoid using KUK out of spite hahahaha