I got a sample pack from them so it's hard to compare and some days I feel more effects than others with any kratom but I didn't really notice any of them being particularly weak compared to KB. As above I've had some pretty poor stuff from KB as well. I did a gopure order that FedEx lost and gopure in effect told me that kratom is illegal in the UK so they don't do refunds ... bizarre! The package wasn't seized by the way. With KB closing I ended up taking loads because I'd stocked up (if it's